Friday, September 03, 2010

Operation Orange Tree




John Walsh is on the road pitching software used in the 2009 Operation Orange Tree sting that resulted in the arrest of 70 plus persons, aged 17-83 years.

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The software can recognize child pornography and identify the sender and receiver without the sender and receiver being aware, Walsh said. He said he was not privy to the exact way it works.


(Sheriff) Kevin Walsh said after the software flags a picture as child pornography, the officers secure search warrants for both involved in the peer-to-peer exchange. The concentration will be on Onondaga County and Central New York exchanges, but on the Internet, the two involved could be anywhere.


I can't even begin to imagine the slippery slope associated with this technology.


6 comments:

Anonymous said...

I'm not one to be big on child porn, actually I hate it and the people that create it and swap it. However, how exactly does this software work, I wonder?

You can't just 'throw' software on the internet and expect it to go hunting out anything. To sniff packets of all the IP based traffic in the world would take eons, and cost Trillions of Tax payer funds.

Now if they are hosting a honey pot site, where they themselves are hosting CP (which would be possible entrapment) they could track, OR if they had a machine setup that received (again, possible entrapment depending on how used) then they could ID someone as far as IP and MAC address, but not really who was sitting at the keyboard at the time.

The big question is again, how are they going to deploy and monitor it. Without a search warrant, is it legal to sniff network packets between two parties neither of which is the LEO? It all sounds very big brother-ish to me, and I would also have to state the software itself is questionable. They'll probably get another worthless group like our friends in Seattle again to do questionable things, then say it was an investigation that caught the perps.

As for the sales pitch, would YOU really buy something the sales man didn't know how it works? I guess true to form AGAIN, john shows himself to be talking out his ass, not knowing what he is doing nor saying.. but hell, he said 'it's for the children' so you know he'll sell 12 million copies before someone realizes it is snake oil again.

Sunny said...

Great points, all pointing to that same slippery slope.

Here's the punchline.

Walsh gave this particular sheriff the software free of charge. They apparently, grew up together and are childhood friends.

Which makes one wonder.....?

Perhaps the economy is slowing down the purchase of this type technology or the legal entanglements such as you describe above are causing sheriffs to consider carefully.

?

Vox Populi said...

No. I think they're going to make it a trial run and then point to it : LOOKEE THERE !! and then the money will roll out. This childhood leo friend cropping up makes me very suspicious of john walsh from very supicious of john walsh multiplied by VERY suspicious of alla this crap PLUS john walsh enriching himself. It's an OBSESSION sunny. The only way it could be explained away is the sick bastard using the death of his innocent son. Because EVERYONE MOVES ON .... and finds a different interest. John king of child porn walsh. He disgusts me. Is there any family resemblance between he and sheriff poo? AND WHAT DID CHILD PORN HAVE TO DO WITH ADAM??

Sunny said...

It has nothing to do with Adam...:(

Anonymous said...

why can't Walsh stand still?The camaraman sure earns his money keeping him in view.
Also he has this great habbit of combining all the info and not seperating a dam thing into there perspsctives

Anonymous said...

If Walsh gave the software to the sheriff for free, then someone needs to be investigating that department for being lobbied, and for accepting gifts from a non-governmental organization.

I have thought that to acquire any goods or service such good or service must be vetted, a need arise for its usage, and then a bidding process generated from within the state's financial offices to fulfill that need.

It is the same reason that governmental bodies cannot run down to WalMart and buy a new keyboard, or run over to Office Max for desks.